Beech can work well in my experience - bearing in mind all the advice given. Here's a group shown as in 2018 that had been a hedging pack 4 years earlier. I've not photographed it since but it continues to thicken and ramify a little each year.
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| Author: | Gary Jones [ 01 Apr 2021, 14:42 ] |
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Beech can work well in my experience - bearing in mind all the advice given. Here's a group shown as in 2018 that had been a hedging pack 4 years earlier. I've not photographed it since but it continues to thicken and ramify a little each year.
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| Author: | cmarkr [ 01 Apr 2021, 21:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bareroot plants ordered |
Thank you Richard, it is intended to be an investment in a long term project (I'm not going to have much free time for a few years as our second child has just arrived) so it's good to get the advice on what to little jobs I can plan to do in the first few years. This year will be about keeping them alive and building roots up in those that need it, perhaps a little wiring/pruning work on the strong ones then I can start investigating roots next year - what time of year is best for root work? Same as repotting season or in dormancy? I guess trying the window method will also be an option for encouraging roots in the right place. I don't know how hedging nurseries propagate but I wonder whether some of these are hardwood cuttings from the way the roots are spread along the main very straight root. Thank you for the photo Gary, a great group planting that's good inspiration for the beeches, I hadn't otherwise got any specific plans for them. I've got a lot of young beeches (1-4" stems) in the garden that need cutting short so will look to build them in to air layer candidates for thicker trunk bonsai in parallel. |
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| Author: | richardb [ 02 Apr 2021, 09:39 ] |
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Chris, I lifted a 2 yr old oak sapling yesterday. About 10 inches high. The tap root went down 12 inches with just a few very fine roots coming out radially at multiple points.i am not a horticulturalist but I assume the first tap root secures the trees and the depth guarantees the moisture supply as the upper soil surfaces will always dry quicker. It is only after the successful start of the trees life that it will then extend the radial roots which ultimately secure the tree to the ground. Even huge trees do not have very deep roots but have shallow roots which are spread far wider than the tree . I think its all a matter of scale. In the same way in which we manage the upper section of the tree we also also proportionally manage the root depth and spread |
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| Author: | cmarkr [ 01 Dec 2021, 23:00 ] |
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An update one year on, the ones that went in the ground have survived at best, there is a lot of tree cover in that location and I think they got too little light, plus the muntjac got uninterrupted browsing opportunities. The ones in pots are alive albeit not significantly bigger than last year. I will need to feed more next year. Have ordered some more bare root this year, will post the list of new ones, mostly garden trees but a couple of future bonsai. |
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| Author: | john blanchard [ 02 Dec 2021, 19:33 ] |
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Beech propagate easier from seed than cuttings. I've just bought some Hawthorn bare root saplings. While the roots are developing, why not use some wire to put some shape into the trunks. |
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| Author: | Betula [ 02 Dec 2021, 23:01 ] |
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Just saw this thread a bit late -sorry:-I would recommend pruning the tops of these back by @30% and support with a stake or cane,at planting time which will reduce the risk of wind loosening them in the ground and also promote more budding. It also helps if you remove any long vertical taproots at this stage. You could also mulch with 2-3 inch deep wood chip or leaf litter to suppress weed competition and conserve moisture, especially important on chalky soil. Its all a bit of a waste of time if the deer and rabbits can get at them so mesh fencing or Tubex tree/ shrub shelters could be one way to go!! |
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| Author: | Betula [ 02 Dec 2021, 23:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bareroot plants ordered |
Bear in mind that good commercial nurseries who field-grow young trees and hedging shrubs on a large scale will normally undercut the growing beds during summer/early autumn , to sever taproots and rapidly promotes a shallower more branching root system. This makes them easier for handling, packaging and replanting by their customers. |
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| Author: | john blanchard [ 05 Dec 2021, 22:22 ] |
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Just got this red flowering Hawthorn Crataegus Laevigata ;  There's a lot of potential if the roots improve, it was a bare root tree. |
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| Author: | john blanchard [ 05 Dec 2021, 22:27 ] |
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Another pic.  The multiple upper branches reach over 4 feet. Seems a shame to cut them back in the spring. Betula do you suggest cutting back by 30% ? 
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| Author: | cmarkr [ 05 Dec 2021, 23:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bareroot plants ordered |
Is it grafted if red flowering? |
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